You Will Anyway: Which One Is Lying?

Thursday, July 20, 2017

Which One Is Lying?

A Russian official was quoted by the country's government-run media on Thursday as saying Moscow and the U.S. government were in talks about establishing a joint cybersecurity unit -- a prospect first raised, and then seemingly dismissed by President Trump after he met with Vladimir Putin.

The RIA news agency said Russia's special envoy on cybersecurity Andrey Krutskikh confirmed that talks were underway to create a bilateral working group, and acknowledging that it could create a "problem" for President Trump.

CBS

He'll just deny it.

With special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election widening fast, Mr. Trump's tween was met with widespread ridicule.

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Democratic congressman Adam Schiff of California said expecting Russia to be a credible partner in any cybersecurity initiative, "would be dangerously naive." Schiff is the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee. "If that's our best election defense, we might as well just mail our ballot boxes to Moscow," he said.

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Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina called it "pretty close" to the dumbest idea he'd ever heard.

Thus, Trump's evening tweet of the same day...

Two can play that game.

Krutskikh was quoted as saying, "there is no need to dramatize the working process, it is undoubtedly difficult, taking into account the current American realities, but this is a problem rather of the U.S. administration, not ours."

[...]

There was no immediate reaction from the White House or President Trump to Krutskikh's reported remarks.

They have to wait to see what Trump will tweet first.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

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GUILDENSTERN: What a fine persecution---to be kept intrigued without ever quite being enlightened.

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ROSENCRANTZ : The only thing that makes it bearable is the irrational belief that somebody interesting will come on in a minute.

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GUILDENSTERN: But for God's sake what are we supposed to do?!

PLAYER: Relax. Respond. That's what people do. You can't go through life questioning your situation at every turn.

GUILDENSTERN: But we don't know what's going on, or what to do with ourselves. We don't know how to act.

PLAYER: Act natural. You know why you're here at least.

GUILDENSTERN: We only know what we're told, and that's little enough. And for all we know it isn't even true.

PLAYER: For all anyone knows, nothing is. Everything has to be taken on trust; truth is only that which is taken to be true. It's the currency of living. There may be nothing behind it, but it doesn't make any difference so long as it is honoured. One acts on assumptions.

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GUILDENSTERN : We act on scraps of information... sifting half-remembered directions that we can hardly separate from instinct.

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PLAYER: Life is a gamble, at terrible odds-if it was a bet you wouldn't take it.