Showing posts with label birthright citizenship. Show all posts
Showing posts with label birthright citizenship. Show all posts

Monday, April 6, 2026

America, this is your president

 

Their decision on presidential immunity is when they didn't seem to care.

Maybe Fox News personalities should just replace the Supreme Court justices.  In fact, Alito will probably be retiring (voluntarily or otherwise) during Trump's term (and maybe even Clarence Thomas!), so there's going to be a spot for Jeanine Pirro (Judge Box of Wine, as Molly Jong-Fast calls her).  Do you have to be a lawyer to be on the Supreme Court?  If not, there's a whole raft of possibilities.


Wednesday, April 1, 2026

Trump is Vincenzo Pentangeli

On Wednesday, Donald Trump became the first sitting president to attend Supreme Court arguments in person. It must have been a brutal morning for him. The justices heard Trump v. Barbara, a challenge to the executive order purporting to strip birthright citizenship from the children of many immigrants—and it quickly shaped up to be a blowout against the administration. Seven justices expressed profound skepticism toward the government’s revisionist history of the 14th Amendment, with most sounding downright hostile toward the pseudo-originalist theory cooked up to legitimize the policy. Only Justices Clarence Thomas and Sanuel Alito asked questions friendly to the administration, and none of their colleagues sounded persuaded by their strained defenses.

  Slate
Nobody tell Trump. Just because he was there doesn't mean he understood what was happening. He only thought his presence would be enough to intimidate the justices.  After a couple of recent rejections from SCOTUS in cases and his public berating of them, I guess he thought they'd get with the program if he showed up in person.

In the Godfather movies, there was a scene in a trial where one of the mafia members was about to rat on the stand, and Michael Corleone had the guy's brother - Vincenzo Pentangeli - flown in from Italy to sit in the audience and remind his brother Frank of his oath to the brotherhood.  It worked.  Trump is Vincenzo Pentangeli.

UPDATE 02:55 pm:  Somebody told him.



All he wanted to do was show himself to "his" judges.  He did not intend to stay.






Reminding us that this very question has already been asked and answered at the Supreme Court.




Seems kind of fitting that the defense is argued by an Asian American.


Check out the CNN chyron...


UPDATE 04/02/2026:


Well, that should help.





I expect there are a lot of Republicans who fit this bill.  The Supreme Court will not mess with birthright citizenship.  They will reconfirm it for the umpteenth time.  Can we please put this to rest once and for all?




Saturday, June 28, 2025

SCOTUS rules in the birthright citizen case

The Court’s ruling is composed of two main parts. The first is its declaration that it is possible that the president can contradict the plain-text reading of the Constitution by issuing an executive order doing away with birthright citizenship.

The second is that lower courts can no longer issue nationwide injunctions against blatantly unconstitutional policies imposed by the executive. Injunctions must now be created on a patchwork basis.

I want to impress upon you how dangerous this is. SCOTUS has empowered the president to impose whatever he likes—irrespective of its constitutionality—and then prevented judicial overview except at the localized level. Meaning that we will now have two sets of laws. One that operates in Red America and one that Operates in Blue America.

  The Bulwark
We have some of that now.
By now, you’ve surely seen the headline—that a 6-3, ideologically divided Court, in an opinion by Justice Barrett, sharply limited “universal” injunctions to cases in which they are necessary to provide “complete relief” to the parties. [...] The ruling has provoked sharp reactions from across the spectrum—including fairly apocalyptic takes from at least some savvy Court watchers.

There’s no question, in my mind, that today’s ruling dramatically restructures the relationship between federal courts and other government institutions (and between the Supreme Court and lower federal courts)—in ways both big and small. How deleterious those changes are to the ability of courts to hold the President accountable depends, in my view, on how three questions are answered—questions raised by today’s ruling, but very much not answered by it:
1. When will parties (especially states) need a universal injunction in order to obtain “complete” relief?

2. If lower courts start certifying more nationwide classes in suits challenging federal policies, will the Supreme Court approve?

3. To what extent is Justice Kavanaugh’s concurrence (and the normalization of emergency relief for which it argues), speaking for a majority?
[T]here’s much to criticize in both Justice Barrett’s majority opinion and Justice Kavanaugh’s concurrence. The long-term implications of the ruling, though, will really depend upon what happens next.

Contra some headlines, Justice Barrett’s majority opinion doesn’t foreclose “universal” injunctions in all cases. Rather, it holds that injunctive relief that directly benefits non-plaintiffs is appropriate only when it’s necessary to ensure that the plaintiffs themselves get “complete” relief. (An illustrative example of when individual plaintiffs will need universal relief is in redistricting cases—where states often need to redraw maps on a statewide basis to redress a successful challenge by even a single plaintiff.) Put another way, if an injunction limited to the plaintiffs in that case will give those plaintiffs all the relief to which they’re entitled, nothing broader is permitted. That’s the holding, in a nutshell.

The majority never actually explains why CASA (the lead private plaintiff in the Maryland challenge to the birthright citizenship executive order) can receive complete relief with an injunction that applies only to it and its members. Although the lower courts hadn’t spent much time on this issue (yet another issue with the Court deciding this question through emergency applications), CASA had specifically argued in the Supreme Court that it couldn’t get complete relief without a universal remedy. That said, given that the majority unambiguously voted to stay the injunction in the CASA case, it seems to have at least implicitly concluded that a CASA-specific injunction is sufficient. But the other two cases before the Supreme Court have states as plaintiffs. And although the Trump administration had asked the justices to knock the states out, the Court (implicitly) declined in today’s ruling. So those cases go forward with state plaintiffs, for which the complete relief question is much harder.

[...]

I’ve written before about the relationship between universal injunctions and nationwide class actions—and the view that the availability of nationwide class actions reduces the significance of the Supreme Court’s narrowing of universal injunctions. Indeed, perhaps the biggest question today’s ruling raises is whether we’re going to see a resurgence of what are known as “23(b)(2)” class actions seeking nationwide relief—where a small number of named plaintiffs seek injunctions against federal policies on behalf of everyone across the country who is similarly situated. As I’m writing this, we’ve already seen parties in several of the birthright citizenship cases move to certify such classes.

Class actions are harder to bring, at least largely thanks to the Supreme Court—and a series of rulings from the early 2010s that ratcheted up the requirements for certifying nationwide classes. On top of that, states (and organizations like CASA) can’t be class-action plaintiffs (the Federal Rule of Civil Procedure that authorizes class-wide relief requires the plaintiffs to be persons).

  Steve Vladeck
Continue reading if you want to get the what-ifs.

Here, Vladeck gives an example of where the universal injunction would be okay.  If a plaintiff files an injury by gerrymandering, they can only get complete relief by a statewide injunction, because the gerrymander correction would necessarily affect the entire state.
CASA, a Maryland-based advocacy group that brought the lawsuit that led to the Supreme Court’s ruling, amended their complaint within hours to make it a class action. The group already has sought a temporary restraining order to immediately block Trump’s executive order from taking effect 30 days from now.

“As we understand, our injunction holds: Our CASA members and individuals that live in states that joined challenges to this unlawful executive order are protected,” the group’s chief of programs and services George Escobar said in a phone interview, noting that the Supreme Court allowed the injunction to continue to protect the named plaintiffs. Still, the broader battle continues.

  All Rise News




Remember when Republicans constantly screeched about "activist judges"?  According to the Fox chyron below, they're not apparently "rogue" judges.





Everybody is hollering about this ruling, and I'm not entirely clear on what it means.  I'll have to wait to see what happens next.


Frankly, that would be my solution.

UPDATE 06/28/2025:


The legal upshot of the Supreme Court’s monumentally disastrous decision in Trump v. CASA (more commonly known as “the birthright citizenship case”) is chaos. Utter legal chaos. In its ruling on Friday, the court’s usual six monarchists granted Donald Trump’s request to reexamine various nationwide injunctions preventing Trump and Stephen Miller from implementing their plans to revoke birthright citizenship to any American who doesn’t happen to be white.

[...]

[T]he ruling doesn’t actually allow Trump to end birthright citizenship. It just makes it incredibly difficult for courts to stop him from ending birthright citizenship.

[...]

An injunction is an order issued by the court preventing the government from doing a thing. Before today, lower courts had the authority to prevent the government from doing an unconstitutional thing, not just in the jurisdiction where the court sits, but nationally.

I’m not actually a fan of nationwide injunctions. The system can be incredibly politicized. [...] Whether a president gets to have their agenda often depends on whether the opposition party can find a friendly lower-court judge.

[...]

[N]ationwide injunctions make sense when it comes to national issues involving civil and human rights: issues like, say, the Constitution’s very clearly stated definition of national citizenship.

[...]

In one fell swoop, the Supreme Court has thrown that system into the shredder. Trump v. CASA takes away the ability of lower-court judges to issue nationwide injunctions. Instead, lower courts are now limited to issuing rulings that apply only to the litigants who happen to be before them in their local court. Injunctions now must be narrowly tailored to give the active litigants only what they personally need, and nothing more. In other words, if Trump violates my constitutional rights in New York, I can sue and potentially win. But if Trump violates your constitutional rights in exactly the same way in New Jersey, you have to sue for yourself.

[...]

The decision means that some courts, districts, and states will still defend the concept of birthright citizenship, while others will not. That could mean that whether or not a child born in America on or after June 27, 2025, is considered a citizen of the United States will depend on what state, or even county, that child happens to be born in.

  The Nation
I think there's a 30-day delay before the ruling takes effect while remedies are sought.
It is exactly how this country determined citizenship from June 21, 1788, (when the Constitution was ratified) until July 9, 1868 (when the 14th Amendment was ratified). The idea that citizenship depends on which state recognizes your citizenship has literally been tried before in this country, with Black people and Native Americans having citizenship rights in some states and… not in others. We have already fought over this. It was called the Civil War. We resolved this issue; it’s called the first section of the 14th Amendment.

[...]

It’s fashionable to say that the court’s ruling is not really about birthright citizenship, because the legal question focused on the power to issue nationwide injunctions. But that sanewashing of the court’s opinion does not survive its first contact with reality. By taking away the ability of courts to enter nationwide injunctions in this case, the court is giving Trump carte blanche to violate the constitutional definition of citizenship in any district where a friendly Trump judge will allow him to. [...] Right on cue, Trump signaled today that he intends to move ahead with a slew of agenda items “that have been wrongly enjoined on a nationwide basis,” including policies targeting trans children, refugees, immigrants, and, yes, birthright citizenship.

[...]

[SCOTUS] chose to [rule] here, on this issue, where lifting the nationwide injunction will have the direct and immediate impact of letting Trump and Miller take away citizenship on a case-by-case basis. If ever there was a reason to have a nationwide injunction, it would be a situation where a president brazenly refuses to follow the most important amendment ever inserted into the Constitution.

[...]

Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who wrote the majority opinion for the Republicans, argues that nationwide injunctions should never be a thing. Her principal reasoning for this is… the High Court of Chancery in England, which existed at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. I wish I were making that up, but I’m not nearly creative enough to do it. Barrett, and the rest of her Republican colleagues, determined that nationwide injunctions cannot be used in 2025 to stop a president from violating the Constitution of the United States, because the High Court in England—which existed during a time of hereditary monarchy—did not use a historical equivalent of a nationwide injunction to enforce the laws against [checks notes] their King.

[...]

We’re living in a world where six Republican Supreme Court justices used the courts of a monarchy we revolted against as the controlling authority on whether the president of the United States has to follow the Constitution.

And Barrett doesn’t stop there. She isn’t sure that any American court can make Trump follow the law. (It’s unclear if she thinks an English court could do it.) She writes: “No one disputes that the Executive has a duty to follow the law. But the Judiciary does not have unbridled authority to enforce this obligation—in fact, sometimes the law prohibits the Judiciary from doing so.”
What???
According to Barrett, the law is a mere suggestion to Donald Trump. She hopes he follows it, but if he doesn’t, there might be nothing the courts can do. I’ve said repeatedly that the courts will not save us from Trump, and will not require him to follow the law. Perhaps I should thank Barrett for so shamefully proving my point.

[...]

Every state will now have to sue the Trump administration individually to defend the constitutional grant of citizenship, and Trump is now probably free to end birthright citizenship in states that do not sue.

More broadly, many of the legal fights brought against Trump over these first few months of his fascist reign are now moot and will have to be relitigated. And even if there is a “win” against the Trump administration, that win will be limited to the litigants actually involved.

[...]

Imagine trying to explain to Trump’s gestapo forces that you are a winning litigant and Trump’s attempts to deport you without due process are void as applied to you personally, but not the other eight people you’re sitting with in an ICE detention van. Imagine trying to convince a state official in Texas that your baby should get a birth certificate, because you were a part of a successful lawsuit, but the official can still deny birth certificates to children in the next ward because their mothers did not sue in a timely manner.

[...]

In a concurrence to the ruling, alleged attempted rapist Brett Kavanaugh assures us that all will be well. While the decision took away the ability of lower courts to stop Trump’s attempts to end birthright citizenship, Kavanaugh says that the Supreme Court has reserved that right for itself. Eventually, Kavanaugh tells us, all of the disparate case-by-case, county-by-county citizenship cases will make their way to the Supreme Court, where Kavanaugh and his buddies can finally rule on the constitutional merits of Trump’s actions. And Kavanaugh promises us that the Supreme Court will act quickly to resolve the (utter freaking) chaos the Supreme Court has itself introduced into the system.

[...]

Allowing states and localities to determine for themselves who really gets to be a US citizen, even for a short time, can have obvious, disastrous consequences. Once the Pandora’s box of two-tiered citizenship is opened, it will be really hard for the Supreme Court to recapture all of the horrors it unleashes. Or, as Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson puts it in her chilling dissent, “Eventually, executive power will become completely uncontainable, and our beloved constitutional Republic will be no more.”

[...]

The Republicans on the court have won their battle against the 20th century and have moved on.

They’re now trying to relitigate the 19th century and destroy all of the progress made during the Reconstruction era. And right now, they’re winning their second Civil War, without firing a shot.

UPDATE 06/28/2025:



 

Tuesday, June 3, 2025

He knows she's much smarter than he is

 So he keeps stepping on her very reasonable responses.



PS  Law professor Kate Shaw is married to Chris Hayes.

The Supreme Court is currently considering the question of nationwide injunctions that will affect the Constitutional idea of birthright citizenship.  They may hand down a ruling this month.

Imagine the nightmare situation if they decide against nationwide injunctions and judges in different circuits rule differently on birthright citizenship.  Nationwide injunctions may not be a good idea in some situations - and definitely not when it leads to the widespread instance of GOP judge shopping - but in the case of birthright citizenship, even moreso than in the case of abortion or other health care, it would be insane.  You could be an American citizen in the north, but not in the south, for instance.  How could that possibly work?



Wednesday, February 26, 2025

Trump-Musk: B movie villains

 I don't think I've ever encountered a more despicable sight.  After Israeli war crimes have decimated Gaza, Trump puts this trash out.

Like something out of a Batman movie where the villain takes over.  Or Back to the Future, Part II, with Biff Tannen.

The video also comes at a time that a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel remains on shaky ground, with both sides accusing the other of violating the protocols over an agreement that is designed to swap Israeli hostages in Gaza who were seized in the 2023 attack for jailed Palestinian prisoners.

  Newsweek





Ooops.


Also...
America for sale.


Let's see....who would be able to buy a $5M Gold Card to get citizenship?  Oh yeah, Russian oligarchs.

No birthright citizenship.  You buy your way into Trump clubs.





UPDATE 02/28/2025:
Trump told the media that the US could bring in $50 trillion dollars on his Trump Gold Cards if they can sign up 10 million people to put up the $5 million price for US citizenship.

  Meidas Touch
Well, he got the math right.

Thursday, January 23, 2025

Testing the constitution

A federal district court judge on Thursday temporarily blocked President Donald Trump’s executive order aimed at limiting birthright citizenship — the first skirmish in what promises to be a protracted legal battle over the new administration’s agenda.

Senior U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour heard 25 minutes of arguments and then issued an order from the bench blocking the policy from taking effect for 14 days. There will be a further briefing on a preliminary injunction to permanently block the executive order while the case proceeds.

"I’ve been on the bench for over four decades," Coughenour, a Ronald Reagan appointee, said. "I can’t remember another case where the question presented is as clear as this one. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order."

  MSN
I hope Judge Coughenour has body guards.

This will hit the Supreme Court very soon, I expect.



...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

UPDATE 05:51 pm:





Wednesday, August 21, 2019

First, asylum seekers, then legal immigrants, next up...

President Trump on Wednesday said his administration is once again seriously considering an executive order to end birthright citizenship months after several lawmakers cast doubt on his ability to take such action.

"We're looking at that very seriously," Trump told reporters as he left the White House for Kentucky. "Birthright citizenship, where you have a baby on our land — walk over the border, have a baby, congratulations, the baby's now a U.S. citizen."

"We are looking at birthright citizenship very seriously," he added. "It’s, frankly, ridiculous."

[...]

Numerous lawmakers, including several Republicans, quickly pushed back on the idea and argued Trump lacked the authority to make such a change using an executive order. They cited that birthright citizenship is a right enshrined under the 14th Amendment.

Trump responded to the criticism by saying birthright citizenship would be ended "one way or another."

  The Hill