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Monday, January 27, 2025

Got stock?

Breakthroughs from Chinese AI startup DeepSeek have stunned Silicon Valley and could bring turbulence to Wall Street, as they were accomplished at a fraction of what the U.S. giants are spending and despite export bans on top-of-the-line chips.

  Axios
The Magnificent 7 stocks — Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia, Tesla — were also down sharply in premarket trading, dragged lower by Nvidia but also the broad tech sell-off in general.

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The S&P 500's incredible run the last two years has been heavily tied to the Magnificent 7 — but as a result, the market's gains are more heavily concentrated in that small handful of stocks than they've been in decades.

In a period of such heavy concentration, what goes up can come down very, very quickly.

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The so-called Magnificent 7 stocks are heavily leveraged to hundreds of billions of dollars in planned AI investment — and the entire market, in turn, hangs on their performance.

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Investors worldwide stand to lose more than $1 trillion on Monday because of the sudden fear that the market-sustaining AI spending boom might have been for nothing.

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There's a global rout in tech stocks Monday, caused by a panic linked to the new Chinese AI platform DeepSeek.

Last week the company released its R1 model, which competes with the world's very best from the likes of OpenAI and Anthropic — but it's free, open-source, and was developed at a tiny fraction of rivals' costs.

That's driving fears that the planned AI spending boom, with its hundreds of billions of dollars in capex on data centers and chips and power, might not be necessary if there's a way to do it faster, cheaper and better with old hardware.

As of 6am ET, shares of AI chip giant Nvidia were down more than 13% in premarket trading, implying a loss of more than $500 billion in market capitalization at the open.

S&P 500 futures were pointing to a drop of more than 2%, an unusually heavy decline seen only a few times a year.

  Axios
How is this Joe Biden's fault?  Because, I'm sure we'll hear it is.

American techbro billionaires might be in a spot of bother.
DeepSeek's rise is alarming the likes of Meta, which announced Friday that it plans $60 billion-$65 billion in capital investment this year as it scales up its own AI projects.

  Axios
Is that wasting money?
[I]t could potentially also be bad news for Nvidia, which designs the world's most advanced AI chips, because DeepSeek is proving that rapid advances are possible even with fewer and less sophisticated chips.

Nvidia's stock slid on Friday and again in overnight trading last night, pulling the Nasdaq down with it.

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DeepSeek created and released its entirely open source project for about $6 million in training costs ("a joke of a budget," in one expert's words). OpenAI is spending hundreds of millions of dollars.
...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

UPDATE 04:09 pm:

U.S. tech stocks are plummeting as China looks to be exposing American companies involved in AI as wildly overvalued. It’s a predictable consequence of how the American government has approached Silicon Valley and vice versa. This isn’t the kind of thing we normally cover, but we don’t quite trust the U.S. media to tell this story accurately.

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Lina Khan, as chair of the Federal Trade Commission under former President Joe Biden, became a folk hero as she warned that greed and consolidation weren’t just harming consumers and workers, but that the sclerotic companies themselves would eventually suffer from the lack of competition. “Our history shows that maintaining open, fair, and competitive markets, especially at technological inflection points, is a key way to ensure America benefits from the innovation these tools may catalyze,” Khan said in 2023.

Now it’s become clear that the moat the U.S. built to protect its companies from domestic competition actually created the conditions that allowed them to atrophy. They got fat and happy inside their castles. Their business pivoted from technological innovation to performing alchemy with spreadsheets, turning made-up metrics into dollar valuations detached from reality. Now DeepSeek has exposed the scam. With a tiny fraction of the resources, and without access to the full panoply of U.S. chip technology, the Chinese company DeepSeek has pantsed Silicon Valley.

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DeepSeek is ironically fulfilling OpenAI’s original mission by providing an open-source model that simply performs better than any in the market.

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Meanwhile here in the United States, Trump is celebrating a (possibly exaggerated) $500 billion investment in Texas to fuel AI computer power that appears to be made obsolete—or much less relevant—thanks to DeepSeek’s innovation. And Trump is stacking his administration with crypto bros, tech moguls refusing to divest, and even launched his own scam meme coin. Trump’s senior tech advisers like Elon Musk meanwhile have extensive commercial ties directly with China. You don’t have to squint too hard to see which of these countries is going to win this competition.

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It’s common to say that most people don’t own individual stocks, but that understates the exposure we all have to this scam. It’s in our IRAs or 401ks and the rise of those stocks made up nearly all of the growth of the stock market in recent years.

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Big tech companies have also been telling the government and investors that building AI is very very expensive. In his first week in office, U.S. President Donald Trump has announced $500 billion in private sector investment in AI under a project called Stargate—a collaboration between OpenAI, Softbank, and Oracle.

In the past OpenAI founder Sam Altman has claimed that he would need as much as $7 trillion to create his dream AI and was raising investment using that target. For context, no man in the entire history of the world has ever spent that amount of money on a single thing. But the underlying message seems to be: this is a magical technology and a force more powerful than any the world has ever seen, we need astronomical amounts of money to build it and we need the protection of the U.S. government while doing so.

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[DeepsSeek] used $5.5 million worth of computational power.

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They released the DeepSeek-V3 model last month, a model that outperforms OpenAI GPT-4 and all other models in the industry in most benchmarks. There isn’t any significant development in the basic technology, they just use hardware efficiently and train their model better.

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DeepSeek has released its model and training methods as open source software, meaning anyone can see how they made their model and replicate the process. It also means that users can install DeepSeek models on their own machines and run them on their own GPUs, where they seem to be performing very well.

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“The accusations/obsessions over DeepSeek using H100 sound like a rich kids team got outplayed by a poor kids team, who weren't even allowed shoes,” tweeted Jen Zhu, an AI investor, “and now the rich kids are demanding an investigation into whether shoes were used instead of training harder to improve themselves.”

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The social contract struck between the U.S. government and Silicon Valley—which the American people became an involuntary party to—was straightforward: We will let a handful of tech bros become unfathomably wealthy and in exchange they will build a tech industry that keeps America globally dominant. Instead, the tech bros broke the bargain. They took the money, but instead of continuing to innovate and compete, built monopolies to keep out competition—even getting the help of the U.S. national security state to block Chinese access to our tech. But they couldn’t keep out of the competition forever. Lina Khan was right. And now here we are.

  DropSite
Can we get our $500 billion back, or is that just up in smoke? Rhetorical question.

UPDATE 02/03/2025:




Thursday, January 23, 2025

Meta super lawyer quits

He’s not a famous name in the wider world, but copyright lawyer Mark Lemley is equal parts revered and feared within certain tech circles. TechDirt recently described him as a “Lebron James/Michael Jordan”-level legal thinker. A professor at Stanford, counsel at an IP-focused law firm in the Bay Area, and one of the 10 most-cited legal scholars of all time, Lemley is exactly the kind of person Silicon Valley heavyweights want on their side. Meta, however, has officially lost him.

Earlier this month, Lemley announced he was no longer going to defend the tech giant in Kadrey v. Meta, a lawsuit filed by a group of authors who allege the tech giant violated copyright law by training its AI tools on their books without their permission.

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Lemley said on LinkedIn and Bluesky that he still believes Meta should win the lawsuit, and he wasn’t bowing out because of the merits of the case. Instead, he’d “fired” Meta because of what he characterized as the company and its CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s “descent into toxic masculinity and Neo-Nazi madness.” The move came on the heels of major policy shifts at Meta, including changes to its hateful conduct rules that now allow users to call gay and trans people “mentally ill.”

  Wired

Wednesday, January 15, 2025

Meta messaging: What this country needs is more testosterone

A lawyer representing Meta in a copyright case said he was dropping the company as a client due to CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s “descent into toxic masculinity.”

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Mark Lemley, a partner at law firm Lex Lumina PLLC and director of Stanford Law School’s Program in Law, Science & Technology said he was firing the social media giant as a client in a social media post on Monday.

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The move comes as employees and associates of the social media company grapple with their founder’s apparent attempts to pivot rightward before President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration next week.

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Lemley was previously defending Meta in an ongoing copyright infringement case filed by writers including novelist Richard Kadrey and comedian Sarah Silverman, who claim the company trained their generative AI model Llama using their copyrighted works obtained through piracy websites.

  Daily Beast
Last week, Meta announced a series of changes to its content moderation policies and enforcement strategies designed to curry favor with the incoming Trump administration. The company ended its fact-checking program in the United States, stopped scanning new posts for most policy violations, and created carve-outs in its community standards to allow dehumanizing speech about transgender people and immigrants. The company also killed its diversity, equity and inclusion program.

Behind the scenes, the company was also quietly dismantling a system to prevent the spread of misinformation. When the company announced on Jan. 7 that it would end its fact-checking partnerships, the company also instructed teams responsible for ranking content in the company’s apps to stop penalizing misinformation.

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The result is that the sort of viral hoaxes that ran roughshod over the platform during the 2016 US presidential election — “Pope Francis endorses Trump,” Pizzagate, and all the rest — are now just as eligible for free amplification on Facebook, Instagram, and Threads as true stories.

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[A]fter the company’s own analyses found that [its AI] classifiers could reduce the reach of these hoaxes by more than 90 percent, Meta is shutting them off.

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The company plans to replace its professional fact-checking program with volunteers from the user base appending information to posts in a system modeled after X’s community notes. But Meta has offered few details on how the program will work, and has not said when it will become available.

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For now, these changes only apply to the United States.

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Zuckerberg announced today that he would cut another 5 percent of his workforce, or around 3,600 people, targeting “low performers.” Most layoffs inspire a significant number of demoralized employees to quit; this move should be taken as another push toward the door for employees who believe in newly taboo ideas such as that Meta should employ men and women in equal numbers.

  Platformer
Mark Zuckerberg lamented the rise of “culturally neutered” companies that have sought to distance themselves from “masculine energy”, adding that it’s good if a culture “celebrates the aggression a bit more”.

“Masculine energy I think is good, and obviously society has plenty of that, but I think that corporate culture was really trying to get away from it,” Mr Zuckerberg said during an almost three-hour-long conversation with podcaster Joe Rogan published on Friday.

  Financial Review
...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

UPDATE 01/17/2025:



Wednesday, January 8, 2025

Time to quit Facebook if you haven't already


Companies Meta owns.  (Includes Instagram and Messenger)

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

UPDATE 01/10/2025:



I never noticed before that Mark Zuckerberg is painting his face orange, too.  Is this new?