Showing posts with label Stone lies. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Stone lies. Show all posts

Thursday, November 7, 2019

Roger Stone's trial - Part 2

Stone's lawyer Bruce Rogow's opening statement:



If that's what he's got, he's in trouble.  Oh, wait.  There's more...



The great and brilliant Roger Stone got duped and really wasn't important.  Desperate.  He's in trouble for sure.


Now that's just sad.



Sad and desperate.  The jury must already be rolling their eyes and preparing to vote guilty.

Was this the best lawyer Stone could get?
Roger Stone is on trial, and the proceedings are bad news for President Donald Trump, with federal prosecutors citing evidence that suggests Trump might have lied to Special Counsel Robert Mueller. And that sort of lying can be a crime.

[...]

The neo-fascist Proud Boys were there, as well as other luminaries of the alt-right, to support Stone, the dirty trickster and conspiracy theorist who has been a Trump adviser since the 1980s. Facing seven felony counts, Stone is charged with lying repeatedly to the House Intelligence Committee, obstructing justice, and witness tampering. But this case goes beyond Stone’s alleged lies: prosecutors have revealed new information about how Trump tried to benefit from the Russian operation during the 2016 campaign that hacked the Democratic National Committee’s servers. And they are producing material undercutting Trump’s claim to Mueller that he has no recollection of talking to Stone during the campaign about WikiLeaks.

  Mother Jones
Well, they may undercut it, but they can't disprove it if he's simply saying he has no recollection. I don't recall is the get out of jail free card of litigation.
Several of the queries Mueller submitted to Trump focused on whether he was ever told Stone had been in touch with WikiLeaks and whether he or anyone associated with his campaign had spoken to Stone about WikiLeaks. In his written response, Trump replied, “I do not recall being told during the campaign that Roger Stone or anyone associated with my campaign had discussions with any of the entities named in the question regarding the content or timing of release of hacked emails.” He also noted, “I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with [Stone], nor do I recall being aware of Mr. Stone having discussed WikiLeaks with individuals associated with my campaign.” And Trump, who has boasted of possessing a prodigious memory, claimed to have “no recollection of the specifics of any conversations I had with Mr. Stone between June 1, 2016” and Election Day. The impression Trump provided: as far as he knew, he and his campaign had had nothing to do with Stone and WikiLeaks.

Mueller’s report characterized Trump’s responses as “inadequate.” Zelinsky’s opening statement suggests Stone’s trial could show Trump’s statements were false.

[...]

Zelinsky told the court that [Steve] Bannon will testify that he and Stone “had been talking all summer long” about WikiLeaks and that Stone had told Bannon what he had been claiming publicly: that he had inside information on WikiLeaks. [...] In October 2016, when Assange gave a bizarre press conference widely seen as a dud because he did not disclose new material on Hillary Clinton, Bannon immediately emailed Stone to ask, “What was that?” Stone assured Bannon that Assange still planned to release additional emails. And days later, WikiLeaks began releasing messages the Russians had swiped from Clinton campaign chief John Podesta.
[Roger Stone] has found a defense that takes advantage of his unsavory reputation: Don’t believe me or anyone else.

[...]

Stone “did brag about his ability to try to find out what was going on,” Rogow said, but ultimately learned only what was in “the public domain.”

[...]

Stone, 67, claimed inside knowledge, Rogow said, because “he was playing others himself” and such claims “play in politics … in newspaper articles, in public.”

[...]

Stone, Rogow argued, thought he would be asked questions about Russia rather than WikiLeaks. “He goes into this bare, naked,” Rogow said of Stone’s exchanges with House investigators. “His state of mind undermines any argument that he did this in a conscious, evil, purposeful way to mislead the committee.”

  WaPo
Dude, you just said he was playing everybody.
What prosecutors labeled a conspiracy to thwart a congressional investigation, Stone’s lawyers framed as meaningless bragging and confusion among a group of eccentrics.

Stone and Credico had a “strange relationship,” Rogow said, and Credico is “an impressionist.” When Stone told Credico to “do a Frank Pentangeli” before the committee and feign forgetting information so as not to contradict Stone, Rogow suggested he was merely asking his friend to act out a scene from the second “Godfather” movie. Prosecutors used that quote as evidence that Stone wanted Credico to help him avoid a perjury charge by lying under oath, as the Pentangeli character does for Michael Corleone in the film.

[...]

In a text presented in court late Wednesday, however, Credico compared Hillary Clinton to a character from the first “Godfather,” saying she kills her enemies like Luca Brasi does. Stone urged Credico not to be scared.

Later, he told his friend to “stonewall” if contacted by investigators: “Anything to save the plan.”

Credico replied, “What plan?”

Stone replied, “I’m telling them Stone isn’t talking and neither is Credico.”

Credico responded with a thumbs-up emoji.
"What plan?" Kind of sounds like Credico was already working for investigators, getting Stone to say things on the record.

Public testimony in the Ukraine extortion deal to steal the 2020 election and a public trial about collusion to steal the 2016 election at the same time.  Trump between a rock and a hard place, of his own making.

Andrew Prokop's trial thread for day 1 is here.

Sunday, November 3, 2019

The 302 reports

BuzzFeed filed and won a lawsuit to get the DOJ to release some Mueller documents. The first installment has been received.
The documents revealed Saturday, known as “302 reports,” are summaries of interviews with former White House official and Trump campaign manager Stephen Bannon, Cohen, Gates, and more. They are some of the most important and highly sought-after documents from Mueller’s investigation. They reveal what key players in the campaign told FBI agents about Russia, Trump, the email hack during the 2016 presidential campaign, and Trump's associates’ handling of the special counsel’s investigation.

Mueller’s 448-page report last March [...] reflected only a small fraction of the billions of primary-source documents that the government claims Mueller’s team may have amassed over the course of its two-year investigation.

[...]

After years of speculation and accusation, these documents offer a chance for everyone to view a key function of American democracy. That opportunity — hard-won, but enshrined anew with each additional FOIA release — commences today. It will last long after all the players have departed.

[...]

In an April 2018 interview with the special counsel’s office, Rick Gates, who had served as deputy Trump campaign chair and had long been Paul Manafort’s right hand, told investigators that after the campaign learned the DNC had been hacked, Manafort pushed the theory that Ukraine, not Russia, had orchestrated the attack. It’s a conspiracy theory that’s persisted in right-wing circles, even after the US Intelligence Community concluded Russia was involved, and one that Trump brought up in his July 2019 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

[...]

The documents reveal how [Michael] Cohen, Trump's former personal lawyer who spent years in his inner circle, worked through how to talk about issues related to Trump and Russia.

[...]

Cohen also "learned the message to have the Russia investigations end early from discussions with TRUMP, SEKULOW" and a third person whose name is redacted.

[...]

[Rick] Gates, who served as Trump’s deputy campaign chair, told Mueller’s team in late 2018 that the release of the hacked [DNC] emails “offered a mode of deflection for the campaign after a sink in polling numbers following Trump's comments about Ted Cruz's father at the end of the Republican National Convention.”

[...]

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said in June 2016 that the group had an upcoming email leak related to Hillary Clinton. After that, Manafort instructed Gates to “periodically call” someone whose name is redacted from the documents “to check in on where the information was and when it would be coming,” Gates told the FBI.

  BuzzFeed
I believe that's Roger Stone, who is going on trial in two days, November 5, in DC federal court for lying to Congress about his interactions with Wikileaks, obstruction of justice and witness-tampering. Should be a good time. And these newly released documents could come in handy for the prosecution.
Bannon told FBI investigators that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner were on vacation in Croatia with a “Russian billionaire” in August 2016 — appearing to confirm a long-suspected and long-denied connection between Trump world and a Russian oligarch.

Messages between Bannon and an unnamed individual with a Breitbart domain email address — exchanged in July 2017, one month before Bannon was fired from his position as White House chief strategist — revealed that they were hoping to leverage this information against Kushner. Bannon cofounded the far-right Breitbart and rejoined it in August 2017.
So I wonder who squealed to Trump/Kushner.
In a Feb. 14, 2018, interview with the special counsel’s office, Bannon said that Kushner had been on vacation with a Russian oligarch when he took over the Trump campaign in August 2016.

In the documents released Saturday, Bannon told investigators that Kushner had been in Croatia with the unnamed Russian billionaire, Rupert Murdoch’s ex-wife Wendi Deng, and the Russian’s girlfriend, whom Bannon said his sources in the intelligence community found to be “questionable.”

Kushner and his family’s Croatian vacation in August 2016 was widely covered in the media.

[...]

Bannon appeared to indicate that the information, if reported and confirmed, could be valuable against Kushner, his rival for power in the Trump administration.

[...]

The same day as these emails, Bannon exchanged messages with someone at Breitbart about a Guardian story reporting that Kushner secured a real estate deal with another Soviet-born oligarch.

“Don’t touch yet,” Bannon said.

“k this is big though isn’t it? It’s the ball game…” the Breitbart person responded.

“All and everything,” Bannon replied.

[...]

Gates said Trump's "Russia if you're listening" line was an "ad lib."
He's actually very good at stepping on his own dick by ad libbing.
"Bannon first met Trump in August of 2010. Their first meeting was approximately 2 hours long. David Bossie was present and said that Trump was thinking of running for president in 2012. Bannon said 'for what country?'"
Good one.

Back to Roger Stone:
Stone’s trial could yield evidence (beyond his emails with Bannon) indicating whether Stone was talking to Trump or anyone else in the campaign about WikiLeaks—and whether he was viewed within Trump’s inner circle as a conduit to Assange. If Trump and the campaign in any way had tried to reach out to WikiLeaks through Stone while WikiLeaks was facilitating a Russian assault on an American election, that would be a big deal.

[...]

The Stone trial could also produce material that challenges what Trump told the special counsel. The president refused to be interviewed by Mueller, but Trump agreed to answer a set of written questions—as long as the queries only covered what happened during the campaign, not any activity that occurred after he became president (meaning actions related to the allegations that Trump obstructed justice).

  Mother Jones
How many criminal defendants would like to have the right to tell the prosecution what questions they could ask? I think he should have been given the interrogatories and forced to take the fifth where he didn't want to answer. As it was, he used the Reagan defense in some answers: I do not recall. Which is as good as an admission in my book. Maybe not legally, but logically. If the answer is no, you say no.
Unless there’s a character in the story who has yet to be revealed, it seems probable that Stone was the guy trying to gather information from WikiLeaks for the Trump campaign—and that Trump knew about this.

[...]

[A]ny material presented in the courtroom that fills in the redactions would go far toward resolving all this. The evidence could also reveal whether Trump lied to the special counsel—which would be obstruction of justice and a crime.
Not if he never said anything other than he didn't recall.
This trial of a conniving Trump confidante who specializes in the political dark arts will be a reminder of the original scandal of the Trump administration that has tainted and undermined his presidency, and it could add another big lie—and a possible crime—to Trump’s long record of wrongdoing.
Prepare for Trump to make what he's already done seem pale in comparison.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

UPDATE:


Tuesday, March 12, 2019

Your Honor, we're very sorry

Roger Stone's lawyers apologized on Monday for failing to disclose that Stone was in the middle of releasing a book while under a gag order.

  Business Insider
Please, Judge Jackson, don't get any madder.
On March 1, his lawyers said in a court filing that his book would be "imminently release[d]," when in fact it had been available online since February 19. The judge accused Stone's lawyers of using his case to drum up publicity for the book and warned that any "costs or consequences" Stone faced as a result would be his own doing.
Did they think she was a dummy like them?
"There was/is no intention to hide anything," Stone's lawyer wrote in Monday's filing. "Having been scolded, we seek only to defend Mr. Stone and move ahead without further ado."
LOL. We've tried all our tricks and failed. Now let's go forward with a clean slate. Okay?
But in an email Stone wrote to Skyhorse Publishing editor Michael Campbell on February 15 — six days before the gag order was imposed — he expressed concerns that a potential gag order would interfere with the promotion of his book.

[...]

"Recognize that the judge may issue a gag order any day now and while we will appeal it, that could take a while," Stone wrote to Campbell on February 15.
He discussed that with his publisher but not his lawyers?  I'm feeling skeptical. 
Stone's lawyers [...] denied using a March 1 court filing to drum up publicity for the book. Though they wrote in the filing that the book would be "imminently release[d]," it had been available online since February 19. [...] [ A few days after the March 1 filing, Jackson found that Stone deliberately waited until after the book's publication to disclose plans for publication that had been underway for weeks. The timing, she said, suggested his lawyers were using his case to spin publicity for the book. She added that any "costs or consequences" that result from the mix-up are Stone's responsibility.

Rogow acknowledged the error in the March 1 filing, saying that Stone had reminded his lawyers of the book after the gag order was issued on February 21.
Sure.
"The new introduction, post February 21, 2019, presented a question we tried, obviously clumsily, to address."
No intentional attempt to hide. Just clumsy. Let's put this all behind us.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Thursday, February 21, 2019

Jesus Christ, these people

Trump, Manafort, Stone, who else?  Consummate liars.  Incapable of straight answers and truth.



Judge Berman has more tolerance than I.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anywsay.

UPDATE:









Roger Stone has been a blight on the political landscape for almost a half-century. The Instagram post was a perfect example of his entire career. He became famous for stunts like that. He got rich by being utterly amoral. People talking about how stupid he was missed the point. He is what he is. The post was what he does. Now, he has to shut up. About everything. I don't like the chances.

  Charles P Pierce

Tuesday, January 29, 2019

Stone pleads "not guilty"

Just under the wire:



I believe the hearing was at 11:00.






Anyway, the finally did manage it, and Stone has pled "not guilty."  And good luck with that.




Former prosecutor Joyce Vance told NBC News on Friday that Stone could face up to 24 to 30 months in prison under federal sentencing guidelines if convicted and the “offense resulted in substantial interference with the administration of justice."

"Judges have the discretion to depart upwards or downwards,” Vance added.

[...]

He will still not be allowed to contact potential witnesses in the case, his passport remains seized and his travel is restricted to his home in Florida, the D.C., Delaware, Maryland and Virginia area and New York. After the hearing, he was required to report to the U.S. Marshal’s office to complete his booking. A status hearing is scheduled for Friday.

  NBC
Manafort wasn't allowed to contact potential witnesses, either, and yet he did.



...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Saturday, January 26, 2019

Rudy?



I think that could be problematic.  For Stone and Trump both.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Friday, January 25, 2019

Stone calls in to Infowars - the right wing nutjob radio show -- and I do mean "show"



Let's see what he says in court filings, though.



I'm very skeptical.

UPDATE:



Alex Jones, because that's where all the Trumpanazee nutjobs - people who would be most likely to contribute to Stone's pocketbook - go for information.  He's just going to soak them.  He's not going to fight.

UPDATE:









...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Get me Roger Stone

At long last.

So, it was true - the Grand Jury did meet yesterday.

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Authorities in the United States have arrested Roger Stone, an associate of President Donald Trump for alleged witness tampering and other crimes.

The Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office on Friday said Stone was arrested in Florida by the FBI following a grand jury indictment.

  alJazeera
That'll do for a start.
The Associated Press news agency reported that the indictment lays out Stone's conversations about stolen emails from the Democratic Party posted by WikiLeaks ahead of the election.

[...]

Stone has been charged on seven counts, including one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and one count of witness tampering.

Stone is scheduled to make a court appearance later on Friday.
This is no surprise to Stone. It'll be interesting to see what he pleads.
“Robert Mueller is coming for me,” Stone wrote to supporters in August last year, before asserting that his name was next on what he called Mueller’s “hit list” of targets. Stone denied wrongdoing and said he faced legal peril simply because he had advised Trump for several decades.

[...]

Mueller’s indictment alleges that during the summer of 2016 Stone spoke to senior Trump campaign officials about WikiLeaks “and information it might have had that would be damaging to the [Hillary] Clinton campaign. Stone was contacted by senior Trump campaign officials to inquire about future releases by” WikiLeaks, which the document refers to as “Organization 1”.

“On multiple occasions, Stone told senior Trump campaign officials about materials possessed by Organization 1 and the timing of future releases,” the document states.

It also alleges that Stone – a longtime political adviser to Trump – made “multiple false statements” about his interactions regarding WikiLeaks, and “falsely denied possessing records that contained evidence of these interactions”, and “attempted to persuade a witness to provide false testimony to and withhold pertinent information from the investigations”.

[...]

“Shortly after [WikiLeaks’] release, an associate of [a] high-ranking Trump campaign official sent a text message to Stone that read ‘well done’.

[...]

Asked if he had no emails or other communications relating to Wikileaks and the hacked Democratic documents, Stone allegedly said: “That is correct. Not to my knowledge.”

The indictment states: “In truth and in fact, Stone had sent and received numerous emails and text messages during the 2016 campaign in which he discussed Organization 1, its head, and its possession of hacked emails.”

  The Guardian
Like Cohen, because he knew that's what Trump wanted. I doubt if he'll give up Trump by saying he was being directed by him. He'll be looking for a pardon. But, who knows? Trump is an unreliable friend.
It was Stone who first recommended that Trump’s team hire as its campaign manager Paul Manafort, who has been found guilty on eight counts of financial crimes and is said to have breached a plea agreement with the special counsel.

Manafort will make his first court appearance in months on Friday as prosecutors and defence lawyers argue over whether he intentionally lied to investigators.
A busy day in the Mueller investigation courts today.

BTW, I'm guessing Jerome Corsi is the witness Stone attempted to suborn. Randy Credico?*

Now, get me Jared and Junior.

UPDATE:




* Credico



UPDATE:
According to several published reports, the "senior Trump campaign official" mentioned here was Steve Bannon, which makes the phrase "was directed to contact Stone" even more intriguing. At that point in the campaign, the universe of people who could "direct" Bannon to do anything was a tiny one, and several of them had the same last name.

  Charles P Pierce
UPDATE:



There's a good reason for that:  That's what he is.