Ouch

 

Actually, this is not surprising.  Elite college educations for elite spawn.  It's the American way.

Here we go

 

This may be the one thing I can get behind that Trump has ever done. 

Well, I like this anyway

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

What are they still hiding?

Under the JFK records act, all documents related to the assassination were supposed to be released by 2017. But then-President Donald Trump delayed the full publication of all records and ultimately left it in the hands of Biden, who in 2021 delayed full release until Thursday, only to do so again.

[...]

Biden’s administration released more than 13,000 records of President John F. Kennedy's assassination Thursday, but it fell short of fully complying with the spirit of a 30-year-old law demanding transparency by now.

With Thursday's action, about 98% of all documents related to the 1963 killing have now been released and just 3% of the records remain redacted in whole or in part.

[...]

“We’re 59 years after President John Kennedy was killed and there’s just no justification for this,” said Judge John H. Tunheim, who from 1994-98 chaired the Assassination Records Review Board that was established Under the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, which Biden voted for when it passed Congress unanimously.

Among the documents that remain largely hidden: 44 related to a shadowy CIA agent, George Joannides, and a covert Cuba-related program he ran that came into contact with Lee Harvey Oswald less than four months before Kennedy was shot, according to calculations made by JFK researchers with the Mary Ferrell Foundation, the nation’s largest nonprofit repository of the assassination records, which sued the administration to make all the documents public. The foundation says the CIA is withholding most of the records at issue.

  NBC

Of course they are. It's the CIA.

"We’re talking about over 87,000 documents originally included in the JFK Act collection," the agency said. "And as of today, CIA has completely disclosed more than 84,000 of those to the public without any redactions. That amounts to about more than 95% of those documents, released in full."

So, not all.  (There are lawsuits ongoing to get everything released. Don't hold your breath.)

[T]hose records that remain secret are expected to be the most interesting to researchers, involving government contacts with Oswald.

[...]

As Oswald interacted with DRE and became known as an activist who supported President Castro, the Pentagon was formulating a plan called Operation Northwoods to stage a false flag attack in the United States to blame on Cuba and justify a military confrontation to make up for the aborted Bay of Pigs fiasco two years before.

The foundation seeks those Operation Northwoods records in its lawsuit, as well as records concerning CIA plans to assassinate Castro and a June 30, 1961, memo from Arthur Schlesinger Jr. to JFK to reorganize the agency after Bay of Pigs.

Jefferson Morley, a JFK expert and vice president of the Mary Ferrell Foundation, said a spot check of the Thursday files showed that the memo was still "largely redacted."

"If the CIA can't bring itself to release a document written two years before the assassination — a memo that is obviously critical of the CIA — you have to question their good faith in whether they are complying with the law," he said.

[...]

[The CIA] appointed Joannides as an agency liaison to investigators, which impeded the 1976 House Select Committee on Assassinations investigation, its general counsel, G. Robert Blakey, told Miami New Times in 2001. Tunheim agreed.

“They said his files shouldn’t be released because it didn’t relate to anything related to the assassination because he wasn’t involved. That clearly wasn’t true at all,” Tunheim said. “His information is highly relevant, and if we had it at the time, we would have released it. And the fact they haven’t released it leads people to think they have something to hide. It just suggests there’s something to hide.”

[...]

“Calling for further delays and redactions for six decades-old documents around the most important of issues in American history — the murder of a president inside our borders — doesn’t just raise additional suspicions, it borders on tacit admission by the agency that something's very rotten at the CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia[,” Amandi told NBC News.]

You think?

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

A bit of history

And the best explanation of who killed JFK.

(This program from Amy Goodman at Democracy Now! was conducted four years ago.)

"Conspiracy theorists"

You didn't "order" anything, Mr. Nothing-happens-in-the-world-without-my-edict. It was already set up to happen. You're just the bunghole who happened to be in the Oval Office at the time.

And, as far as anything still being claimed to be a matter of national security, I think that's ample evidence right there that the "conspiracy theorists" are on the right track. What could hold over for 50 years as a matter of national security if not CIA need to keep its part in the assassination covered up?

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Depends on what you mean by "national security"

Conspire Away, Oh Theorists

[W]hat the Safari Club demonstrates is that [Allen] Dulles’ [CIA director from 1953 to 1961] entire spooky world is beyond the reach of American democracy. Even the most energetic post-World War II attempt to rein it in was in the end as effective as trying to lasso mist. And today we’ve largely returned to the balance of power Dulles set up in the 1950s. As Jay Rockefeller said in 2007 when he was chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, “Don’t you understand the way intelligence works? Do you think that because I’m chairman of the Intelligence Committee that I just say ‘I want it, give it to me’? They control it. All of it. All of it. All the time.”

[...]

In the first 500 pages [of The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government, a new book by Salon founder David Talbot] you are convinced that Dulles would have had no moral qualms about killing any politician, including Americans. You learn Dulles had a lifetime of experience in arranging assassinations, and apparent ties to attempts to overthrow or murder French president Charles de Gaulle. And you discover the depth of his grudge against John F. Kennedy, who dismissed him and several of his key underlings after the Bay of Pigs.

But were JFK and possibly Robert Kennedy killed by conspiracies involving Dulles? That’s the conjecture of The Devil’s Chessboard. There’s no question Talbot has pulled together a lot of suggestive old information, and uncovered some that’s new. Furthermore, he certainly proves there was a great deal of reluctance on the part of journalists and politicians at the time to pull on even the most obvious threads. But 50 years later, I don’t think there’s any way to say much for sure on this subject, except that it’s pretty interesting.

  The Intercept

I don't think that gives the CIA enough credit.

In the end, whatever the reality of Talbot’s most sensational claims, he unquestionably makes the case that — unless you believe we’re governed by shape-shifting space lizards — your darkest suspicions about how the world operates are likely an underestimate.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Who Would It Embarrass?

What's left to be covered up?

The National Security Archive, a private research institution, has sought to force the government to hand over the fifth of a five-volume internal account of the Bay of Pigs. The four earlier volumes were released under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA). Penned by a CIA staff historian in the years between 1973 and 1984, the final document chronicles - and presumably critiques - the CIA’s own investigation of how the [1961] invasion went wrong.

[...]

The CIA inspector general’s report on the Bay of Pigs – which was made public under a prior FOIA request – issued a scathing rebuke of the plan from top to bottom, taking particular aim at the executive branch’s miscalculations.

[...]

Assistant US Attorney Mitchell P. Zeff told the US Court of Appeals of the District of Columbia, the second highest court in the nation, that “the passage of time has not made it releasable.”

[...]

The administration has argued that the fifth volume should remain secret because it falls under the CIA’s deliberative process privilege, a legal theory arguing that the executive branch of government should remain exempt from the normal disclosure or discovery in civil litigation.

  RT

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

Like a Circle in a Spyral

Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel

Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone

--Alan and Marilyn Bergman

March 18, 2013: "I call on President Obama – Roger Noriega, Otto Reich, officials at the Pentagon and at the CIA are behind a plan to assassinate the right-wing presidential candidate to create chaos," Maduro said in a TV interview broadcast on Sunday.

The acting president first mentioned the alleged plot to kill his rival, Henrique Capriles, last week. Former Bush administration diplomats Noriega and Reich both dismissed the claim as defamatory and untrue.

  RT

It would be hard to defame the US, seeing as how the CIA has been intervening all around the globe for decades in the politics of other nations, including kidnapping, assassinations and assassination attempts.

August 1, 2013: Venezuelan officials warned of an alleged plot to assassinate the country’s President and launch a paramilitary invasion of the country. A former CIA agent, Cuban exiles living in the US and Latin American leaders were fingered in the conspiracy.

  RT

Well, that sounds a little far-fetched unless you remember the Bay of Pigs.

The suspected plot to overthrow the government in Caracas was allegedly funded by Cuban exiles living in Miami, the head of the Venezuela’s parliament [and former vice president to Hugo Chavez] Diosdado Cabello told legislators on Wednesday. They raised some $2.5 million and recruited about 400 mercenaries, who would enter Venezuela’s Zulia state from Columbia as part of the plan.

And, Fox News reporter James Rosen is at it again – asking for trouble. Here are excerpts from a July 25 report of his:

The [1962] initiative, code named "Operation Mongoose," drew on the brainpower and energies of the U.S. government's most senior officials and ranged from balloon drops of anti-Castro pamphlets and cartoons to covert sabotage of Cuban industry and infrastructure. In time, it would even include active plotting to assassinate the Cuban dictator, with the Central Intelligence Agency clandestinely enlisting the aid of the era's reigning Mafia chieftains.

But the row with Kruschev over missiles in Cuba caused a change in plans.

"It was agreed that all plans for dispatch [of saboteurs] should be suspended," declared a Top Secret memorandum of the session, adding that "instructions were issued during the course of the meeting designed to recall the three teams already on the way" to Cuba. "No major acts of sabotage should be undertaken at this time."

[...]

These deliberations were among the revelations tucked away in some 7,500 pages of files amassed by the younger Kennedy and withheld from public view until now. The unsealing of RFK's confidential files on Wednesday, a half-century after the events they chronicled, drew a handful of researchers and historians to the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum in Boston.

While an estimated 5,000 to 10,000 pages of RFK's files remain classified -- the documents released by the library were peppered with redactions and withdrawn items -- those that were unsealed provided fresh insight into the extraordinary influence that their owner wielded in the Kennedy White House.

You'd think there'd be more than a "handful" of researchers interested in the RFK files.

...but hey, do what you want...you will anyway.

What Did Happen on November 22?