You Will Anyway: War plans chat group

Tuesday, March 25, 2025

War plans chat group

[T]he Trump administration’s national security principals hold highly sensitive military planning discussions on Signal, the encrypted text-messaging app. And we know this because Donald Trump’s national security adviser, Michael Waltz, accidentally added Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of the Atlantic, to a Signal group chat including JD Vance, Pete Hegseth, Marco Rubio, Scott Bessent, Tulsi Gabbard, Susie Wiles, and others. Without realizing a very prominent journalist was mistakenly added to the group, the principals breezily planned strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen. Hegseth even sent the group highly detailed attack plans that turned out to be perfectly accurate.

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Trump is likelier to order an investigation of Jeffrey Goldberg, or to raid his home, than to allow an investigation of his own national security principals.

House Speaker Mike Johnson has already blown the whole story off as a harmless oopsie, suggesting Republicans in Congress won’t be looking into this either (not that we should have expected them to)

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Ho-hum. No biggie. Nothing to see here. Move along.

This is, thus, yet another story that’s principally about Republican enablement and complicity.

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Instead of getting genuinely mad about Republican scandals, and trying to turn them into liabilities for Trump and Republican leaders, the way Republicans did with Hillary Clinton’s emails, they say “BUT HER EMAILS,” and then move on.

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The lesson of the Clinton emails debacle is that the public can be made to care about many, many things more than they care about the price of eggs.

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But not for any length of time.

Democrats: useless as tits on a boar.

And Republicans are furiously whitewashing, massaging the conscience of their MAGA followers who will mindlessly absorb and repeat.

How utterly ridiculous. Typical D'Souza. Can anyone help him out with this question of why Goldberg didn't share actual war plans publicly?

Trump Homeland Security Advisor and lackey Stephen Miller understood the issue in '22. What's he saying now?

But here we are.

UPDATE 08:18 am:

I guess being able to monitor in real time IS better than waiting for them to fill you in after the fact.

And he knows he's safe making that claim because Goldberg isn't as corrupt, feckless, and incompetent as Hegseth.

Howard Nutlick.

UPDATE 08:49 am:

UPDATE 01:23 pm:

Next up: Trump claims to have declassified the war planning info shared on Signal.

UPDATE 04:59 pm:

From the Senate hearing on national security threats:

Narrator: They can, and they will.

Narrator: It doesn't just seem that way.

Yep. But only if Dems don't just walk away and "move on."

Or to admit ignorance like this:

Assume they'll get it from Goldberg.

UPDATE 03/26/2025: The money quote:

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